Erik ten Hag sacked by Manchester United: news and reaction – live

Nigel Moore gets in touch: “I think Ineos has escaped a lot of the criticism that has otherwise been flung at ETH and some players. The big question that I’ve rarely seen posed is do they have the nous to run a football club? Their other sports businesses aren’t a great success either. Big Jim has rode on a crest of goodwill as a local lad made good and a lifelong Utd fan but that doesn’t make you necessarily fit to run a football club, esp one with such baggage as the outfit in Manchester 16!”

Alan Gomes gets in touch: “I realise the comment by Mr. Ashdown (13:24) is mostly in jest. But some of the names he puts forward are probably better than those with the top odds to replace Erik ten Hag.

“Sérgio Conceição, Edin Terzić, Sebastian Hoeneß, Michel: all of these have achieved excellent results by playing pragmatic football with squads assembled with relatively limited resources.

“I believe that is exactly what United need now: a competent caretaker who can find a way to make the pieces fit. Not another “system” manager who will demand millions be spent to bring in “his” players.

“The most likely outcome of United’s manager search will probably be “stay the course” (Van Nistelrooy) or “big name hire”. But they’d do well to look at Mr. Ashdown’s suggestions.”

Reminder that Manchester United play on Wednesday in the Carabao Cup against Leicester.

Some more Rio Ferdinand, too:

Some of these players have been here for one, two, three managers now and it’s still the same results where they haven’t been performing, haven’t been consistent enough and haven’t challenged for anything of any sort, especially the Premier League.

Someone’s got to come in and change that now, change the whole dynamic of this squad, and it’s going to be difficult because these guys are in a rut. These guys are in a position where they’re used to falling short. They’re used to not being able to compete with the best teams. How do you go about changing that culture? This is down to Ruud right now. He’s the interim manager, he’s got to change that culture.

More Gary Neville, via Sky:

“After that defeat by Tottenham, Manchester United would have chosen the next big moment, or bad loss, to make that decision. I think they would have started the process then.

“I think the lack of identity and style is something that has been a mystery for two-and-a-half seasons. The recruitment has not been the best, awful at times. Yesterday I was shocked to see Casemiro starting and Manuel Ugarte, who is supposed to be replacing him, on the bench.

“If I was the club owner looking at that, I would be asking questions. A lack of style with the players has been big and Erik ten Hag has not been able to get a consistent performance out of them, and a lot of them are his players.”

John Ashdown – not our John Ashdown – had this to say: “I can only add some other possible/outlandish/funny possibilities

• Edin Terzic

• Sergio Conceicao

• Xavi

• Sebastian Hoeness

• Michel

• Julian Nagelsmann

• Frank Lampard (lol)

• Jurgen Klopp (lololol)

• Jose Mourinho (lolololol)

  ”Some of these and some of the ones on your list are unemployed and may well be willing to take the job. But I do think Van Nistelrooy is the most likely choice.
  Hard as it might be for Man Utd fans to realize, this is not the greatest job in football anymore. Huge expectations, no Champions League football, a very expensive but poorly constructed squad. United may have trouble attracting the kind of manager they need. Van Nistelrooy might have to steer the barge until the end of the season.”

Those 21 Ten Hag signings, and ratings

• Manuel Ugarte, PSG, 29.08.2024 €50.00m – N/A – oddly dropped

• Matthijs de Ligt, Bayern Munich, 12.08.2024, €45.00m – bust, must do better

• Noussair Mazraoui, Bayern Munich, 12.08.2024,€15.00m – no improvement

• Leny Yoro, Lille, 17.07.2024 €62.00m – injured – N/A

• Joshua Zirkzee, Bologna, 13.07.2024. €42.50m – good start, poor since

• Sergio Reguilón, Tottenham, 31.08.2023, loan – bust, forgotten

• Sofyan Amrabat, Fiorentina, 31.08.2023, loan – bad start, got better, not good enough

• Altay Bayindir, Fenerbahce, 31.08.2023, €5.00m – barely seen

• Rasmus Højlund, Atalanta, 04.08.2023, €73.90m – fitness problems, has talent seen all too rarely

• André Onana, Inter 19.07.2023, €50.20m – can be bad, can be spectacular

• Jonny Evans, Leicester, 17.07.2023, free transfer – not let anyone down

• Mason Mount, Chelsea, 04.07.2023, €64.20m – who?

• Marcel Sabitzer, Bayern Munich, 30.01.2023. loan – was OK, why not kept on?

• Wout Weghorst, Burnley, 12.01.2023, loan – cult hero, not very good

• Jack Butland, Crystal Palace, 05.01.2023, loan – N/A

• Martin Dúbravka, Newcastle, 31.08.2022. loan – N/A

• Antony, Ajax, 31.08.2022. €95.00m – bust of all busts

• Casemiro, Real Madrid, 21.08.2022, €70.65m – great first season, poor since

• Lisandro Martínez, Ajax, 26.07.2022, €57.37m – good player, poor fitness

• Christian Eriksen, Brentford, 14.07.2022, free transfer – good player, too old

• Tyrell Malacia, Feyenoord, 04.07.2022, €15.00m – a forgotten man

Bruno Fernandes, the team’s captain, has bade farewell on Instagram.

“Thanks for everything boss! I appreciate the trust and the moments we share together, I wish you all the best in the future. Even knowing the last period isn’t been great from all of us I hope you fans can keep with you the good things the manager as done for our club!”

Odds on the next manager, via Oddschecker:

• Ruud van Nistelrooy 7/2

• Ruben Amorim 7/2

• Gareth Southgate 8/1

• Thomas Frank 8/1

• Kieran McKenna 14/1

• Michael Carrick 14/1

• Graham Potter 16/1

• Max Allegri 20/1

• Zinedine Zidane 25/1

• Simone Inzaghi 25/1

The Gary Neville viewpoint is here, via Sky Sports:

The big shock for me is how bad they’ve been with the new signings that have come in. I felt as though they would have enough to be able to get a decent level of performance together after a smoother transfer window, and that Erik ten Hag would get a level of stability.

The fact that they are 14th is unacceptable. You can’t be in 14th after nine or 10 games with the level of spend that’s occurred without being under significant pressure – and that’s what’s happened. I was hoping it would end differently. I think Manchester United fans were hoping that the manager would continue to keep his job and the faith shown in him in the summer would pay off. But it’s not been the case.

Some Ten Hag data via PA Media:

• With 70 wins from 128 games in charge, Ten Hag’s 54.7 per cent win record is actually the second-best of any United manager since Sir Alex Ferguson’s retirement – behind only Jose Mourinho’s 58.3 per cent.

• The Dutchman lost 27.3 per cent of his games though, ahead of only David Moyes (29.4 per cent) and a spell as interim boss for Ralf Rangnick (27.6), as his side struggled to turn defeats into draws – just 23 games, or 18 per cent, ended all square.

• Ten Hag’s side conceded 165 goals in his time in charge, with their average of 1.29 per game topping even the figure in a lost half-season under Rangnick (37 in 29 games, 1.28 per game).

• Mourinho (0.84) and Louis van Gaal (0.95) kept their goals against average below one per match, with Moyes at 1.06 and Ole Gunnar Solskjaer 1.09. Overall United had conceded almost exactly a goal a game between Ferguson’s retirement and Ten Hag’s appointment, 499 in 502 games.

• They have conceded four or more in a game seven times under Ten Hag, losing 6-3 and 7-0 to bitter rivals Manchester City and Liverpool respectively in his first season while in his second they let in three or more goals on more occasions (15) than they kept clean sheets (13).

• Ten Hag is only the second post-Ferguson manager with multiple trophies to his name, adding last season’s FA Cup to the 2022-23 Carabao Cup.

Karen Asad gets in touch: “FA Cup win last season, as sweet a memory as it was, masked the obvious flaws of ETH team. This season he had the players and no difference; because serious teams don’t take shelter in these kinds of excuses.

“A lot of questionable transfer decisions will leave United to count the costs for the foreseeable future. I think ETH wasn’t ambitious enough. He invested more than anybody but act like he’s been tasked with delivering cup glory to a medium-sized club. We assumed he’ll be in the same league as Pep & Klopp but he really wasn’t.”

Here is Ruud himself:

Nicholas Ridgman gets in touch: “Of all the post-Fergie management faragos, this is the hardest to understand.

“To finish third, 14pts of the top, with a trophy, in his first season, was a pretty impressive achievement. This was largely with a squad he inherited. Then the more of his preferred players came in, the more incomprehensible the tactics became.

“What’s also odd is the general togetherness of the squad seems fine. None of the poor body language / dressing-room leaks we saw in other managers’ endgames. How did he seemingly manage to keep this unity while utterly tanking the team’s fortunes?”

Rio Ferdinand, a backer of Ole Gunnar Solskjær you may recall, has his man already.

OK, here’s the first runner and rider to shake off the list.

Not sure he’d be a popular candidate.

All eyes on Sir Jim Ratcliffe. The big decision is made, now for an even bigger decision.

Though was it Big Sir Jim’s call?

Should Ten Hag have been sacked despite this famous victory? Hindsight suggests it absolutely should have done.

At Wembley that day:

Asked if he thinks he’s been treated unfairly by the media, Ten Hag said to Gary Lineker: “I think so, the team as well. It was not right.”

Alan Shearer interjected to say that United have rarely been as good as they were today and often deserved whatever criticism came their way. “You are right but we didn’t have the players,” came the riposte. “It was not always good football, definitely not, but if you don’t have the players you can’t play the football you want to play.”

Was it his last game in charge of United? “I don’t know,” he said. “The only thing I am doing is training my team, preparing my team, developing my team because this is for me a project. When I came in, I can say it was a mess and we are now better but we are by far not where we want to be.”

The United brains trust kept him on, and spent even more money. A fateful decision.

Complaints made in vain after that defeat at West Ham. It probably wasn’t a penalty but then again, Ten Hag was not much of a Manchester United manager.

It seems quite a while already since the “bald is best” campaign.

Will Unwin has the story so far.

Here’s that official club statement: short but sweet. Seen shorter.

Erik ten Hag has left his role as Manchester United men’s first-team manager.

Erik was appointed in April 2022 and led the club to two domestic trophies, winning the Carabao Cup in 2023 and the FA Cup in 2024.

We are grateful to Erik for everything he has done during his time with us and wish him well for the future.

Ruud van Nistelrooy will take charge of the team as interim head coach, supported by the current coaching team, whilst a permanent head coach is recruited.

Well, it wasn’t a shock, was it? It had been coming. Even if VAR delivered the felling blow at West Ham, Ten Hag has been on a sticky wicket from the start of the season. He departs as a League Cup winner, an FA Cup winner but he becomes the sixth manager since Sir Alex Ferguson, if you include Ralf Rangnick.

What next? Ruud van Nistelrooy is the caretaker, and has looked likely to fulfil that role since he arrived in the summer as assistant coach. The Ineos regime has taken down its first manager, to follow the many staff who have departed the club.

Right, a day ahead of reaction and further news. Join us.